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FULL EPISODE: Mattias Desmet: ‘Mass Formation’ Hypnosis and the Rise of Technocratic Totalitarianism

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Why did large swaths of society suddenly buy into masking toddlers or restricting people from visiting their loved ones, even as they lay on their deathbeds? I sit down with Mattias Desmet, a professor of clinical psychology and author of “The Psychology of Totalitarianism.” Desmet is one of the world’s leading experts on the phenomenon known as “mass formation,” which can occur when people are isolated from one another and free-floating anxiety is prevalent. “The real reason why they buy into the narrative is always because it leads to this new social bond, because it frees them from their anxiety,…

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