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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Hans von Spakovsky. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on October 22, 2024.
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This interview was released several weeks before the 2024 election. However, the topic remains relevant after the 2024 election.
Hans von Spakovsky is a former member of the Federal Election Commission and a senior legal fellow at the Heritage Foundation. He is also the head of the think tank’s Election Law Reform Initiative. He has been looking at election integrity issues for years.
In this episode, he breaks down what he sees as key vulnerabilities in the U.S. election system, from ballot harvesting to outdated voter rolls to lack of citizen verification processes.
“The biggest problem across the country is that we have an honor system for registering, so states are not doing anything to verify that you actually are a U.S. citizen. When you register to vote, there’s a question on the form you fill out asking you whether or not you’re a US citizen, and unfortunately, states aren’t really verifying that. So if you are a non citizen, but you say, Yes, I am a citizen, you’ll get registered to vote,” he says.
CHAPTER HEADERS
0:00:01 Voter Registration and Absentee Ballot Fraud
0:00:35 Post-2020 Election Reforms and State Legislative Actions
0:01:24 Voter ID Requirements and Their Impact
0:01:55 Election Integrity Scorecard and Voter Roll Cleanup
0:09:08 On-Citizen Voting and Census Impact
0:10:03 Ballot Harvesting and Absentee Ballot Fraud
0:12:06 Vulnerabilities in Absentee Balloting
0:21:31 Final Thoughts on Election Integrity
“The European Union sends observers to all our elections, and whenever I brief them prior to election, they’re always astounded at the fact that not every state in the United States requires an ID. Like I said, two of the biggest states, New York and California, you don’t need an ID to vote. You know, there’s been this whole claim of voter suppression. If you require an ID, people aren’t going to be able to vote. We’ve had voter ID laws now in place in a number of states for a decade and a half, and all of the turnout data shows that all of those claims are completely untrue.”
Hans von Spakovsky: “The Heritage Foundation where I work, we launched an integrity basically scorecard, an election integrity scorecard in December of 2021, and we grade every state based on 50 different criteria. So it’s everything from whether or not you require an ID to vote for both in person, absentee balloting, but also, what do you do to clean up your voter rolls, make sure they stay accurate.”
Spakovsky about Congressional seat apportionment: “Apportionment happens every 10 years after the census based on the total population of each state. The Census Bureau determines how many members the US House each state has, and because it’s based on total population, if a state has a very large population of aliens, whether they’re here legally or illegally, they’re going to get more representatives in the US House. The effect of that is that California has the largest population of non citizens in the US. If apportionment was based on citizen population, which is what I think it should be, California would probably lose anywhere between four and six congressional seats. Illinois would probably lose a congressional seat. New York would probably lose a congressional seat. Texas potentially would lose a congressional seat. I think the inclusion of non-citizens is frankly unfair to US citizens in the voting process.”
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