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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Mark Clifford. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on December 17, 2024.
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Forty-five key figures in Hong Kong’s pro-democracy movement were recently sentenced to up to 10 years each. More than 1,900 political prisoners have been convicted and imprisoned in Hong Kong in the last five years. Thousands more are simply being held without bail for years on end. About 40 percent of Hong Kong’s entire prison population is being held without a conviction.
“They haven’t even taken the trouble to convict these people in a kangaroo court,” says Mark Clifford, president of the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong Foundation.
Clifford has lived in Asia since the late 1980s and witnessed Hong Kong’s transformation from a largely free society in 1997, to an increasingly repressive one. He previously served as editor-in-chief of the Hong Kong-based South China Morning Post and executive director of the Hong Kong-based Asia Business Council.
He’s the author of multiple books, including “Today Hong Kong, Tomorrow the World” and most recently “The Troublemaker: How Jimmy Lai Became a Billionaire, Hong Kong’s Greatest Dissident, and China’s Most Feared Critic.”
Hong Kong, once celebrated for its economic freedom and rule of law, has now become a key node for authoritarian regimes to evade sanctions, Clifford says. According to a report by Samuel Bickett, Hong Kong has become an indispensable location for the transfer of money, military technology, and prohibited products to Russia, Iran, and North Korea.
CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:01 – Hong Kong’s Mass Sentencing of Pro-Democracy Activists
0:00:19 – Mark Clifford’s Background and Expertise on Hong Kong
0:01:00 – Hong Kong’s Transformation into a "Rogue State"
0:01:11 – Jimmy Lai’s Imprisonment and the Committee for Freedom in Hong Kong
0:02:34 – The Shocking Details of Hong Kong’s Mass Sentencing
0:05:04 – The Alarming Number of Political Prisoners in Hong Kong
0:06:17 – Clifford’s Decades-Long Involvement in Asia and Transition to Activism
0:09:53 – Hong Kong as the "Forefront of a New Cold War"
0:14:26 – Break
0:15:07 – The Story of Jimmy Lai and "The Troublemaker"
0:19:47 – Hong Kong’s Role in Illicit Transshipments
0:20:46 – The Future of Hong Kong Under Xi Jinping’s Policies
0:22:17 – Conclusion
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