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During the inauguration ball on January 20, 2025, Jan Jekielek did a brief interview with Jordan Peterson to talk about his move to the US, Canada as 51st state, TikTok and China.
Jordan Peterson: βThe cultural tide has shifted, and hopefully the people who benefited in consequence of that will have the wisdom to be measured in their political maneuvers and focused on the issues at hand, and not on petty revenge and foolish politics.β
About Canada as 51st state: βI suppose one of the underlying realities that is motivating Trump is the fact that Canada and the US should be bound together very tightly, economically, especially with regards to energy and energy security, and that could be negotiated in a way that would be eminently beneficial to both countries.β
βTrump is preparing to renegotiate a whole series of international agreements, and heβs doing what he usually does, which is to push for advantage hard and see what happens, and to establish what would you say an anchor that is beyond even what he might hope to achieve, so that he can achieve half of that. Heβs very good at that. So, and I think Trump also floats these propositions as a trial balloon. You know, heβs obviously the guy whoβs willing to see whatβll happen, and so he likes to stir the pot, and heβs doing that very effectively at the moment in relationship to Canada and Greenland and Panama and Mexico.β
CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:00 β Petersonβs Move to the US
0:01:20 β Trumpβs Statements About Canada
0:03:17 β Free Speech and TikTok
0:04:47 β Predictions for the Next 100 Days
0:05:35 β Petersonβs Shift in Posting
Peterson about TikTok: βIβm no fan of TikTok. I know that TikTok has pathologized women between 18 and 34 in the US. Itβs probably the prime agent on the media front in their pathologization, their terrible manipulation of the information streams that theyβve been fed. Itβs appalling. Weβre fools when it comes to Communist China. Is there a free speech concern there? I know the Libertarians make that case, libertarian conservatives, and itβs not like we want the government attending to which apps we use on our phones, but thereβs a legitimate security threat from the Chinese government. Thereβs genuine infiltration with regard to TikTok. So I donβt know enough about the specific details of the situation to come up with anything brilliant to say about appropriate policy moving forward. I canβt say, however, that the idea that the Chinese Communists are our friends is a very naive idea.β
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