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This is the full version of Jan Jekielekβs interview with Suella Braverman. The interview was originally released on Epoch TV on January 30, 2025.
Suella Braverman is the former home secretary of the United Kingdom, and a conservative member of the British parliament. Jan Jekielek interviewed her while she was in Washington for President Donald Trumpβs inauguration.
βDonald Trump has not just shifted the Overton Window, heβs shattered itβ¦ we need to learn a lot from the Maga movement, from the success of the Republicans under Donald Trump, and really try and apply some of those lessons to UK politics right now, because we are mired in the Depression, the recession, the doom and gloom over socialismβ, said Braverman.
They discussed the grooming gangs scandal currently making headlines in Britain, in which predominantly migrant gangs of men have been sexually assaulting and abusing young girls for roughly two decades.
Suella Braverman: What the problem is the grouping gangs, or more accurately, the rape gangs, is that in some of our towns and cities around the United Kingdom, there have been organized gangs, gangs of men whoβve targeted girls. These gangs have been made up of predominantly Muslim Pakistani men, and they have targeted white girls, poor white girls. And this has been an open secret in these towns. The authorities have been aware. The teachers have been aware. Sometimes the girls themselves have reported the suspects, the perpetrators, to the police, and whatβs happened is the authorities turned a blind eye.β
About issues related to anti-Semitism and free speech: βWeβve got this problem in the U.K. of hate marches, where extremism, antisemitism, and Islamism can be paraded on our streets, and the police wonβt take any action. And itβs caused a real increase in antisemitism, and itβs made parts of our streets and our public realm no-go zones for Jewish people,β she said.
βWe have a crisis of free speech in the United Kingdom, and I use that word deliberately. We have a situation where the police have the powers to record your information and log your details, if youβve said something that might be offensive to someone. It doesnβt matter about the objective nature of what youβve said. If someone, somewhere, happens to be offended by what you have said, and it relates to a personal characteristic, race, gender, religion, or sex, then thatβs it. The case is closed. You will be considered guilty of what we call a βnon crime hate incident.ββ
CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:01 β The Grooming Gangs Scandal
0:00:22 β The Significance of Winston Churchillβs Bust
0:00:44 β Crisis of Free Speech in the UK
0:01:26 β Suella Bravermanβs Background and Political Career
0:08:54 β Addressing the Grooming Gangs Scandal
0:13:12 β Challenges in Addressing the Grooming Gangs Scandal
0:15:23 β The Crisis of Free Speech Continues
0:21:01 β Challenges on Campus
0:21:11 β Plans for the Future
βI think the problem is, thereβs been a squeamishness in British society to really tackle it [the rape gang scandal] head on. When I was home secretary, I was very keen to tackle it. I went to Rotherham, I went to Rochdale. I met with some of the women now, women, girls previously, who had survived some of this horrendous abuse, and they told me about their experiences, just as Iβve told you, there have been whistleblowers."
As home secretary, βI set up a task force, I set up a dedicated unit involving the National Crime Agency, which is a very kind of elite set of crime investigators in the United Kingdom and in England, Wales and then and the police to expedite and improve the criminal investigations, to get these investigations to court so justice could be secured, and in its first year, it did secure over 550 arrests, and it identified 4000 victims, but there was much more that could have been done. And you know, if Iβm honest, I did struggle to get the support to do more and to do more faster when I talked about it publicly, there was a real shutdown by the kind of mainstream media and people on the left accusing me of racism and accusing me of Islamophobia.β
βI will keep flying the flag for common sense conservatism. I very much believe in the virtue of the patriotic, law abiding, common sense majority. And I think for too long, theyβve been dismissed and theyβve been smeared in the United Kingdom. And they need their voice, needs to be heard. And thereβs a lot of wisdom in that, you know, in the British people, in the hearts and the minds of the British people.β
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