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Ric Grenell on Kash Patel’s Confirmation and the Freeing of Six Hostages from Venezuela

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At the 2025 Conservative Political Action Conference, Jan Jekielek sat down with presidential envoy for special missions Richard Grenell to discuss the confirmation of Kash Patel as FBI Director, the negotiations and freeing of six American hostages in Venezuela, and his thoughts on the future of the Kennedy Center for Performing Arts. Grenell was recently interim executive director at the Kennedy Center.

Grenell: "As a diplomat, I have to say that when you’re at a table and you’re negotiating, the reason we’re successful is not because we can talk through it better than other people. It’s not because we’re convincing in any way. There’s one reason why Donald Trump’s ambassadors are able to do these things. It’s because of Donald Trump. It’s because he has a credible threat. It’s not just a threat of military action, it’s a threat of tariffs, it’s a threat of, you know, economic sanctions. It’s a credible threat. It’s why we say there needs to be a credible threat."

0:00:05 Cash Patel’s Confirmation as FBI Director
0:01:18 Grenell’s Diplomatic Efforts in Venezuela
0:05:58 Challenges and Successes in Hostage Negotiations
0:14:02 Grenell’s Role as Interim President of the Kennedy Center
0:17:43 Bomb Threat at the Kennedy Center
0:21:42 Grenell’s Views on Diplomacy and the Role of Ambassadors
0:24:37 The Importance of Free Speech and Western Values
0:26:29 Grenell’s Final Thoughts and Support for Cash Patel

"Peace through strength means that the diplomats won. It means we didn’t have to fire a shot because we had tough diplomacy. You get that tough diplomacy when people are focused on representing the American ideals & have a president like Donald Trump."

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