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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Nicolas
Chaillan. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on February 11, 2025.
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The Chinese AI app DeepSeek recently became the most downloaded iPhone app in the United States and caused U.S. tech stocks to plummet. President Donald Trump described it as a “wake-up” call for American companies.
So what’s really going on? Is DeepSeek as powerful as people think? Or is there a bigger story here?
In this episode, Jan Jekielek sits down with AI expert Nicolas Chaillan, former chief software officer for the U.S. Air Force and now founder of the generative AI company Ask Sage.
CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:01 – Introduction to the Conversation
0:01:19 – Discussing the Impact of DeepSeek
0:04:19 – Understanding AI Model Training
0:06:43 – Analyzing DeepseeK’s Reasoning Approach
0:09:10 – Evaluating the Claims About DeepSeek’s Capabilities
0:11:16 – The US Department of Defense’s AI Adoption Challenges
0:13:54 – The Intersection of AI and Nuclear Capabilities
0:16:36 – Ethical Considerations for AI in Weapons Systems
0:19:21 – The Threat of Drone Swarming Technologies
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