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This is the 30 minute TV version of Jan Jekielek’s interview with Rob Hersov. The longer-form version was released on Epoch TV on June 24, 2025.
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President Donald Trump has recently criticized the ANC-led government of South Africa for what he says are state-sanctioned, racist policies that have been endangering white farmers.
In this episode, Jan Jekielek sits down with South African businessman and entrepreneur Robert Hersov to get a read on what’s happening in the country. What is the real story surrounding white farmers in South Africa today? What role have Iran and Russia played in the region? And what can we expect from U.S.-South Africa relations moving forward, after the confrontational meeting between Trump and President Cyril Ramaphosa last month?
“In South Africa, we have two farm attacks a day, two murders of farmers a week. And of those farm murders, 20 percent of them involve rape and torture,” says Hersov.
“Cyril Ramaphosa went back to South Africa and proclaimed his meeting as a huge victory,” says Hersov. “I think America is about to unleash serious punishments—not on South Africa, but on the leaders.”
CHAPTER TITLES
0:00:00 – Farm Attacks and Violence in South Africa
0:00:10 – Introduction to the Current Political Landscape
0:01:11 – Impact of Israel’s Attacks on Iran and South African Politics
0:02:36 – Cyril Ramaphosa’s Meeting with Donald Trump
0:06:17 – Detailed Analysis of Farm Attacks and Murders
0:09:45 – Julius Malema and the Economic Freedom Fighters (EFF)
0:13:49 – Potential Genocide and Hate Speech
0:15:34 – The New Coalition Government
0:17:33 – Racist Policies in South African Law
0:19:21 – Economic Challenges and ANC’s Impact
0:22:52 – Closing Thoughts and Hope for the Future
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